No hay mejor compañía para mi primera cerveza que John y Patrick. Desafortunadamente, no tenía alcohol ya que tuve que volver a trabajar después.
John Collison
John Collison27 ago 2025
Maths savant turned @cognition founder @ScottWu46 joins me to discuss their AI software engineer, acquiring Windsurf over a weekend, the Moneyball-ification of everything, math contests with @alexandr_wang in 6th grade, the future of independent coding tools, and why he thinks we already have AGI. Subscribe on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube for future Cheeky Pint episodes. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:13 Early life and maths competitions 03:47 Addepar job as a high schooler 05:43 Where are all the young founders? 08:45 Moneyball-ification of everything 11:42 Cognition’s AI software engineer, Devin 15:46 Essential and accidental complexity 17:59 How Devin works with enterprises 19:48 IDE productivity 21:56 Nihilist computer use argument 25:55 Benchmarking Devin 27:15 Market structure 30:32 Agent economy 37:21 Cognition’s team of founders 39:31 Jevons paradox and software 42:00 When will we see AI UIs? 45:52 “I think we have AGI” 47:03 Windsurf deal 52:37 M&A in AI 54:21 Cognition’s culture 55:48 Learning as a CEO 57:12 Scott’s information diet
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