"Ethereum, not DeFi": we made a bit of progress, DeFi is now tolerated in higher circle, they would sometime even talk about it. However, still diminished. Still discussed at this one weird gambly corner of the beautiful construction that is Ethereum. It's not a shady gambling corner: it's the ground 0 usecase that not only found PMF. but also enables further usecases. You cannot tell the story of Ethereum without telling the story of DeFi. I guess we need to keep pushing.